Thrillhouse Van Houten
DIOS EX.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.15 09:07:00 -
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Totally agree.
Those who don't want a respec...can always respec the exact same skills if they want to. The fact of the matter is that the suit and racial bonuses are not being TWEAKED they are being CHANGED outright.
When they gave vehicles a blowjob in 1.7, that came with a vehicle skill respec (all three trees). Making the absurd number of changes they are proposing for infantry, they should give us the same treatment (all three trees).
Midas Fool wrote:
I really wanted to criticize this analogy because it shows the exaggerating attitude that detracts the validity of many people's arguments. When you apply too much value to your argument then your dissenters know it's not true. A more accurate example would be: you go out and buy a cowboy hat because you are a cowboy; you wake up the next morning and it has been replaced with a beret. It is not a "downgrade" because it is still functionally a hat, the value that has been lost is not monetary or physical, but you are dissatisfied because it is not what you specifically wanted. You chose the cowboy hat because you wanted to exude the meaning that comes with it, and not the meaning that comes with a beret. You are implying that they took your hat and gave you a sock, and that's just not true.
If you want to be taken seriously don't exaggerate your personal value, and don't be surprised if people don't sympathize with it. As a dust-related example, I am sorry to the MinLogi speed hackers that aren't being sympathized with. The fact of the matter is that those who do not use your suit don't attach the value that you do to it. Don't get up in arms if people disagree that it is now "useless". Also on that note bonuses can only do so much. You can still get pretty close to what you had if get a suit that has 5 low-slots. And you can still do what you did before...you don't have to use your suit bonus....
I thought the tractor/sports car analogy worked pretty well, actually. Maybe he should have gone with sports car and luxury sedan to keep things a little more relative.
...and a cowboy hat may just be worn for style, but it certainly has a number of physical functions that one might miss. Say, for example, the wider brim to keep the sun out of your eyes.
People asking for a respec aren't just whining because they are bored with their suits and want a change of pace. Some might be but I know I'm not one of them. I have been Cal Logi since they existed. When they changed the suit bonus from a shield extender bonus to a shield regulator bonus, I was a little chopped up. I missed out on a fourth equipment slot because I wanted the extra eHP and they took it from me. Since it was only a little tweak, and they didn't do it to every suit and race bonus...I rolled with it. THAT is what happens in EVE, most of the time. Not EVERY bonus on EVERY suit with a handful of new suits that weren't in the game in the last build, too.
If you're going to introduce systemic changes to the way basically every suit operates then you need to throw your players a bone and let them make decisions based on the new stats. These are all legit reasons for a respec but the fact is DUST will lose too many players just from not having a respec. That reason alone, as pandering and odious as it can be (and as carefully as this line should be towed), should be enough to push CCP over the edge. We need more players, not less.
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